
Physics II course sequence · Interactive lesson
Potential from continuous charge
Point charges gave you a sum; a rod, a ring or a disc gives you an integral. This is the machinery: pick the charge element, write the distance from it to the field point, and add numbers — no components, no cancellation arguments, one scalar at a time.
UPII-04.07 · Lesson 7 of 8 in this unit. Position is not a completion score.Build the model
One scalar integral replaces three component integrals.
The key idea
The potential of a continuous charge distribution is the scalar integral V(P) = k ∫ dq/r, in which dq is an infinitesimal piece of the charge and r is that piece's distance from the field point P.
Example. A ring of radius 4.0 cm carrying +12 nC puts every element 5.0 cm from a point 3.0 cm along its axis, so the integral collapses to V = kQ/r = 2.2 × 10³ V.
The complete physical model and assumptions
Real charge sits on rods, rings, discs and blocks, not at mathematical points, so the superposition sum over qᵢ becomes an integral over dq. The move is legitimate because potential obeys ordinary addition: chop the distribution into pieces small enough that every part of a piece lies essentially the same distance r from the field point P, write each piece's contribution as dV = k dq/r, and add. What makes this far easier than the matching field calculation is that dV is a number, not a vector — no components to resolve, no cancellations to argue. The work moves into two places instead. First, choosing the element: dq = λ dℓ on a line, σ dA on a surface, ρ dV on a volume, with the density free to vary with position. Second, geometry: r must be expressed in whatever variable you are integrating over, and it is the distance from the element to P, never the coordinate of the element. Symmetry then decides the outcome — on the axis of a ring every element shares one r and the integral collapses, while off that axis the same ring needs a numerical sum. The model stops where V = 0 at infinity stops making sense: an idealised infinite line or plane carries infinite charge, and its potential has to be referred to a finite point instead.
1A scalar sum beats a vector sum
Superposition for potential is ordinary addition: the potential at P from several charges is V = k Σ qᵢ/rᵢ, carrying signs but no directions. Let the number of charges grow and their size shrink and that sum becomes V = k ∫ dq/r. The condition for chopping is simple — each piece must be small enough that every part of it lies essentially the same distance r from P — and the pay-off is large. The matching field calculation needs three integrals, one per component, plus a symmetry argument for which of them vanish. Here three contributions of +12 V, −5 V and +3 V make +10 V, and there is nothing else to say. One warning travels with the gain: V is a number, so it cannot carry a direction. Recovering E means differentiating the answer afterwards, as a separate step.
2Choosing dq fixes the variable of integration
Charge along a wire is described by a linear density λ = dq/dℓ in C m⁻¹, over a surface by σ = dq/dA in C m⁻², and through a volume by ρ = dq/dV in C m⁻³. The element you write is the whole set-up. On a straight rod along x, dq = λ dx and the variable is x. On a disc it pays to use annular rings rather than little squares: the ring between radii s and s + ds has area dA = 2πs ds, so dq = σ 2πs ds and one variable does the work of two. A thin spherical shell of radius r and thickness dr gives dq = ρ 4πr² dr. Uniform densities come straight from the totals — λ = Q/L, σ = Q/πR², ρ = 3Q/4πR³ — while a non-uniform one stays inside the integral: a rod with λ(x) = λ₀x/L contributes dq = (λ₀x/L) dx, and that factor of x must be carried, never averaged away first.
3The geometry step: write r in that same variable
This is where the calculation is won or lost. In dV = k dq/r, the symbol r is the distance from the element to the field point, and it has to be re-expressed in the integration variable. For a rod along x with P on the same line, a distance d beyond the near end, the element at x sits at r = d + x. Move P onto the perpendicular bisector instead, a height y above the rod, and with x now measured from the midpoint r = √(x² + y²). And for a ring of radius a with P on the axis at height z, every element is at r = √(z² + a²) — a constant. A constant pulls straight out: V = k/√(z² + a²) ∫ dq = kQ/√(z² + a²). With a = 5.00 cm, Q = +4.00 nC and z = 12.0 cm, r = 13.0 cm and V = 277 V. Notice what happened: the ring needed no calculus at all, because its symmetry acted on r itself rather than on a cancellation of components.
4Nesting elements: a disc is a stack of rings
Once the ring result is in hand, harder geometries become one-dimensional again. Treat the disc as concentric rings: the ring at radius s carries dq = σ 2πs ds and sits at r = √(z² + s²) from the axial point, so dV = k σ 2πs ds / √(z² + s²). The substitution u = z² + s², du = 2s ds turns it into ∫ du/√u, which gives V(z) = 2πkσ (√(z² + R²) − |z|), the same as (σ/2ε₀)(√(z² + R²) − |z|). Put σ = +30.0 nC m⁻², R = 10.0 cm and z = 5.00 cm: σ/2ε₀ = 1694 V m⁻¹, √(z² + R²) = 0.1118 m, and V = 1694 × (0.1118 − 0.0500) = 105 V. The same nesting builds a cylinder out of discs and a sphere out of shells. Each layer contributes a number, so the outer integral stays an ordinary one.
5Lines give logarithms, and infinite lines lose infinity
Integrating 1/r along a straight line produces a logarithm, and logarithms misbehave at both ends. For a uniform rod of length L seen end-on from a distance d beyond its near end, V = kλ ∫ dx/(d + x) from x = 0 to L, which is kλ ln((d + L)/d) = kλ ln(1 + L/d). Push d out and ln(1 + L/d) → L/d, so V → kλL/d = kQ/d and the far-field test passes. Push d in and V grows without bound, an artefact of treating real charge as a mathematically thin line. Now let L → ∞ at fixed λ: V diverges at every d, because the idealised line carries infinite charge. The cure is not to abandon the model but to move the reference point. Choose V = 0 at a finite distance r₀ and write V(r) = −2kλ ln(r/r₀) = −(λ/2πε₀) ln(r/r₀). Only potential differences were ever physical, and those stay finite.
6When there is no closed form, sum it numerically
Plenty of honest geometries have no elementary antiderivative. Move the field point off the axis of a ring, to a radius b in the plane of the ring, and V = (kQ/2π) ∫ dφ / √(a² + b² − 2ab cos φ) taken over a full turn — a complete elliptic integral. Because the integrand is a number, summing it needs no vector bookkeeping: split the range into N slices, evaluate 1/r at each midpoint, multiply by the slice width and add. For a = 10.0 cm, b = 4.00 cm and Q = +5.00 nC, four slices give 463 V, eight give 469.2 V and sixteen give 469.30 V, already converged. Finish every calculation, closed form or not, with the same three checks: the units must come out in volts, the behaviour close in must be sensible, and at large r the result must fall back onto kQₜₒₜₐₗ/r.
Key equations
Read the units, assumptions and limits before substituting.
Superposition integral
V(P) = k ∫ dq / r, with k = 1/(4πε₀)
Potentials add as plain numbers, so one integral replaces the three a field needs.
r is the element-to-P distance in m, dq in C, V in volts, with V = 0 at infinityChoosing the charge element
dq = λ dℓ (line), σ dA (surface), ρ dV (volume)
Fixes what you integrate and over which variable, before any geometry is done.
λ in C m⁻¹, σ in C m⁻², ρ in C m⁻³, each free to vary with positionRing of charge, on its axis
V(z) = kQ / √(z² + a²)
Every element shares one r, so the integral collapses and V(0) = kQ/a stays finite.
a is the ring radius in m, z the axial distance from the centre in m, Q in CUniform disc, on its axis
V(z) = (σ/2ε₀) (√(z² + R²) − |z|)
Built by stacking rings; it gives V(0) = σR/2ε₀ and a kink, not a spike, at z = 0.
σ in C m⁻², R the disc radius in m, z measured from the centre of the disc in mUniform rod, seen end-on
V = kλ ln(1 + L/d)
The logarithm is the signature of 1/r integrated along a straight line.
L is the rod length in m, d the distance from P to the near end along the rod's lineFar-field test
V(r) → k Qₜₒₜₐₗ / r when r ≫ the size of the distribution
Every bounded distribution must reduce to a point charge; an answer that does not is wrong.
Qₜₒₜₐₗ in C, r the distance from the distribution to P in mInteractive lab
Predict first. Explore the model. Compare the result.
Explore the model
Try this. Slide z out to 30 cm and the two curves merge: that is the far-field limit. Pull z back in and the shortcut runs away — right now it is {100*(√(z*z+a*a)/z-1)|0}% high. Widening a makes the error worse at any fixed z.
Live results
- RING V(z)
- 921 V
- SHORTCUT kQ/z
- 1199 V
- SHORTCUT ERROR
- 30.2 %
- CENTRE kQ/a
- 1438 V
Results follow this lesson’s model and assumptions. Displayed values are rounded.
Predict → change one variable → check
Plan a change before running it. Every other input stays at the saved baseline.
Saved baseline. Ring radius a: 5 cm; Axial distance z: 6 cm
This experiment is kept only while this page is open. It does not change saved course progress.
Catch the common trap
The tempting shortcut is to put the whole charge at the centre of the distribution and write V = kQ/rcentre. It fails because 1/r is not linear: the true potential is kQ times the average of 1/r over the charge, and that average is not 1 divided by the distance to the centroid. Which way it fails depends on how the charge lies. Strung out along the line to P, the near half is weighted far more heavily than the far half and the shortcut reads low — take the 0.800 m rod carrying +6.00 nC, seen end-on from 0.200 m beyond the near end, and the integral gives 109 V against kQ/0.600 = 89.9 V at the midpoint, low by 17%. Spread crosswise to that line the shortcut reads high instead, because every element is genuinely further from P than the centroid is: for the ring of the first worked example the shortcut reads 3.60 × 10³ V against a true 2.16 × 10³ V. Worse, apply it at the centre of a ring and the centroid distance is zero, so it predicts an infinite potential where the true value is the finite kQ/a. The point-charge formula is a limit, not a formula: it returns only once r is large compared with every dimension of the distribution.
Practice & worked examples
3 authored examples. Make an attempt, then reveal the reasoning one step at a time.
EasyExample 1
A thin insulating ring of radius 4.00 cm carries +12.0 nC spread uniformly around its circumference. Find the potential at a point on the ring's axis 3.00 cm from the centre, and at the centre itself. Then compare the axial value with the estimate you would get by treating the ring as a point charge 3.00 cm away.
Sketch your answer or reasoning, then compare it with the authored solution. Your writing is not automatically graded or saved.
0 of 4 steps revealed.
- Every element of the ring lies the same distance from an axial point, so r comes straight out of ∫dq/r: r = √(z² + a²) = √(0.0300² + 0.0400²) = 0.0500 m.
- With r constant, V = (k/r) ∫ dq = kQ/r. Here kQ = 8.99 × 10⁹ × 12.0 × 10⁻⁹ = 107.9 V m, so V = 107.9/0.0500 = 2.16 × 10³ V.
- At the centre, z = 0 and r = a = 0.0400 m, giving V = 107.9/0.0400 = 2.70 × 10³ V — finite, even though the field there is exactly zero.
- The point-charge estimate uses the 0.0300 m to the ring's centre: 107.9/0.0300 = 3.60 × 10³ V, too high by 67%, because the charge is genuinely 0.0500 m away, not 0.0300 m.
Answer. V = 2.16 × 10³ V on the axis at z = 3.00 cm, and 2.70 × 10³ V at the centre. The point-charge shortcut overestimates the axial value by 67%.
MediumExample 2
A thin rod of length 0.800 m carries +6.00 nC spread uniformly along it. Point P lies on the line of the rod, 0.200 m beyond one end. Find the potential at P, compare it with the value obtained by placing the whole charge at the rod's midpoint, and confirm that the two agree far away.
Sketch your answer or reasoning, then compare it with the authored solution. Your writing is not automatically graded or saved.
0 of 5 steps revealed.
- Uniform density: λ = Q/L = 6.00 × 10⁻⁹/0.800 = 7.50 × 10⁻⁹ C m⁻¹, so kλ = 8.99 × 10⁹ × 7.50 × 10⁻⁹ = 67.43 V.
- Measure x from the near end along the rod. The element dq = λ dx lies a distance r = d + x from P, with d = 0.200 m, so dV = kλ dx/(d + x).
- Integrate from x = 0 to x = L: V = kλ ln((d + L)/d) = 67.43 × ln(1.000/0.200) = 67.43 × 1.6094 = 108.5 V, which is 109 V to three significant figures.
- Placing all 6.00 nC at the midpoint, 0.600 m from P, gives kQ/0.600 = 53.94/0.600 = 89.9 V — low by 17%, because the weighting 1/r favours the near half of the rod far more than the far half.
- Far-field test: move P out to d = 20.0 m. The integral gives 67.43 × ln(20.80/20.00) = 2.644 V, and kQ/r with r = 20.40 m gives 53.94/20.40 = 2.644 V — agreement to four figures.
Answer. V = 109 V at P. The midpoint shortcut gives 89.9 V, low by 17%; by 20.0 m the two agree to four significant figures.
HardExample 3
A flat annular washer has inner radius 2.00 cm and outer radius 6.00 cm and carries a uniform surface charge density σ = +45.0 nC m⁻². Find the potential at a point on its axis 4.00 cm from the plane of the washer, then the axial field there, and test the result against the point-charge limit.
Sketch your answer or reasoning, then compare it with the authored solution. Your writing is not automatically graded or saved.
0 of 6 steps revealed.
- Treat the washer as a full disc of radius R₂ = 0.0600 m with a disc of radius R₁ = 0.0200 m removed. Potentials add, so subtract the two on-axis disc results taken at the same z.
- With Vdisc(z) = (σ/2ε₀)(√(z² + R²) − z) for z > 0, subtracting gives V = (σ/2ε₀)(√(z² + R₂²) − √(z² + R₁²)); the two bare z terms cancel exactly.
- σ/2ε₀ = 45.0 × 10⁻⁹/(2 × 8.854 × 10⁻¹²) = 2541 V m⁻¹. At z = 0.0400 m, √(z² + R₂²) = 0.07211 m and √(z² + R₁²) = 0.04472 m.
- V = 2541 × (0.07211 − 0.04472) = 2541 × 0.02739 = 69.6 V.
- Differentiate: Ez = −dV/dz = (σ/2ε₀)(z/√(z² + R₁²) − z/√(z² + R₂²)) = 2541 × (0.8944 − 0.5547) = 863 V m⁻¹, pointing away from the washer.
- Far-field test: Q = σπ(R₂² − R₁²) = 0.4524 nC, so kQ/z = 4.067/0.0400 = 102 V, 46% above the true 69.6 V because z is not large next to R₂. At z = 0.500 m the exact value is 8.100 V against kQ/z = 8.134 V, within 0.5%.
Answer. V = 69.6 V, and Ez = 863 V m⁻¹ directed along the axis away from the washer. The point-charge estimate is 46% high at z = 4.00 cm but within 0.5% by z = 0.500 m.
Quick check
Select an answer and explain it before checking.
Review & continue
The potential of a continuous charge distribution is the scalar integral V(P) = k ∫ dq/r, in which dq is an infinitesimal piece of the charge and r is that piece's distance from the field point P.
- Explain the relationship without looking at the equation.
- Check a sign, a unit and a model assumption in your working.
- Return to the lab or worked example if a step is still unclear.
Optional supporting lessons
These chapter resources can help with earlier ideas; they are not additional required Physics II completion tasks.